Welcome PaulJ!
DY
i have vaig memories of a christmas, but other than that, being a jw was all i know.
she begged me to stay but i knew it would be easy just to give in (again).
i have never felt so much hurt in my life.
Welcome PaulJ!
DY
Welcome, Inday!
Wow, you tell quite a story. Hope you're well and taking better care of yourself.
DY
well, what advice can you give me?
If you haven't finished your education, at the very least an Associate's Degree but preferrably a Bachelor's, finish it. If only one course at a time.
Go against the culture. Don't have a whole bunch of kids just for the hell of it. Have only as many as you can support financially nice enough to provide them with plenty of food, a comfortable home, a nice education all the way through college, and enough attention from you. I know, this part it's tough because it's culturally instilled in us.
You asked for advice, and there is mine.
DY
i never did, although i did tell my former bible student/tennis partner that the bible does not condemn celebrating birthdays or recommend celebrating anniverseries.
he told his jw brother who told his elders who told my po.
when the po asked me about the conversation, i told him he asked me some questions and i truthfully answered., i said, "nothing i said was wrong or incorrect".
There's no doubt in my mind that many JWs view me as borderline 'apostate'. I'm very voiceful about my opinions when things don't make sense.
I'm responsible for the rebelion/uprising of a couple of wives in some congregations I've attended.
Just the other day I was counseling (YEAP, COUNSELING!) a very young elder (in his early 20s, for crying out loud!!!) about pursuing his freshly awakened interest in a better education before starting a family.
I vividly told him about my experience of giving up scholarships in the early 80s because the 'end' was so near that a higher education wasn't needed. Good thing I did get my college education, but it was done later and at a slower pace than I should've!
I told him, even with literature showing the same apocalyptic phrases the Society used way back then. I told him how I kick myself figuratively when I realize how much farther I could've gotten! When I was younger I had aspirations of being a doctor, and I sure had the grades and disposition just to get that far if I and my parents didn't back then bought 'line, hook, and sinker' the WBTS crap!
I told him to pour himself into his studies and he'll thank himself later. Not to let me put my arm around his shoulder 5 or 10 years from now and tell him "You see! You should gone for your schooling back then when you were younger and had the time! Life would've been so much better for you now!"
I'm sure that young elder and his wife see me in a different light now and are even more convinced that I'm an 'apostate' because of the way I expressed myself that evening, and that was right after a bookstudy meeting to boot.
I sure hope they really listened to me and choose to educate themselves now that they're plenty young and haven't started a family.
Oh, what the heck, I must say the truth about my experience in the WBTS.
That's one of the ways I justified mine being still in there. I'm a protection to many against the deceiving practices of the WBTS.
DY
that's on their website....do you believe this?
In the JW realm that would be 1 out of 2.
I swear, there are so many nuts in there!
DY
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honestly, do you think that jw's really like going to 3 or 4 day assemblies, especially when it's out of town, far away, and you have to take a motel room, and all the gas money and food money it takes, as well as having to sit down all day listening to endless talks...and that for 3 or 4 days in a row.. and often, they have to take a day off from work, to attend the friday meeting, so no pay for that day.. i think that the jw's are glad when it's finally over, not before.. .
I hate assemblies!!!!! And so do many other JWs that I know.
DY
by that, i mean you do not want to have children.. i have been told since birth it would not be safe for me to have children, so i never even considered it.
i never went through a grieving period because the concept of having babies was not something i once had and lost.
i always envisioned myself as a happy career woman.. i recently married and am still sure i don't want children.
Oh, and another thing....
If not for the pressures of society and other members of the family, such as parents pressuring their children for grandchildren or girlfriends/sisters pressuring one another to get pregnant together, etc., the childfree community would be much, much larger.
Children are soooooooo cute... and more so when they're other people's children!
DY
by that, i mean you do not want to have children.. i have been told since birth it would not be safe for me to have children, so i never even considered it.
i never went through a grieving period because the concept of having babies was not something i once had and lost.
i always envisioned myself as a happy career woman.. i recently married and am still sure i don't want children.
I'm childfree by choice, and loving every minute of it. I mean, it's just grrrrrrrrrrreat not to have to worry about kids of my own.
Now, don't get me wrong. I have adorable nieces and nephews that I enjoy a lot when in their company. However, when the right time comes, they go home to their parents and everyone is happy.
There's one particular aspect of my life that I wouldn't change, even if the circumstances were ideal to have and raise a family. I've even gone as far as telling other JWs that if in 'paradise' I could be happy without children, I wouldn't have any there either!
Some believe I'm just the most selfish person they've ever met. It's not so, though!
I just enjoy immensely my lifestyle without children of my own in it. It's just so........ stress free, and peaceful!
DY Green with envy yet?! Just kidding!!!
now that i'm a non jw i'm expected to celebrate holidays by my gf, family etc.
there's way too many and it gets to be a pain.
valentines,easter,memorial day mothers day,fathers day, 4th of july, thanksgiving, halloween, christmas(bleh!
Holidays and birthdays are tough on the finances. They sure are fun, though!
DY
i can't help but wonder if mj is trying to get in good graces with jehovah's witnesses in order to be re-instated.
or, whether he feels attending kingdom hall gives him a better image.
or whether he just wants his children to have some type of religious following.
I think he is a monster.
It's a sad, sad day for justice.
DY